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Kalloway ([personal profile] kalloway) wrote in [community profile] onedeadplotbunny2014-02-11 09:25 pm
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One Dead Vocab, Pt. 1 - Premise Bunnies

So you may have noticed a few strange terms popping up...

Now we all know what a plotbunny is - it's that story idea that chomps onto your brain and bothers you while driving, at school, at work, before sleep, in the shower, etc. It is brilliant and if you could just hook a USB cable straight into your brain, you'd be all set.

Less ferocious are Premise Bunnies. Premise Bunnies often pretend to be plotbunnies and on first glance, they can be impossible to tell apart! Sometimes, Premise Bunnies actually turn into plotbunnies through magic.

But what is a Premise Bunny?

A Premise Bunny is a true curse. Premise Bunnies are often distinguished by their vague characteristics, such as 'Bob/Wendy have an adventure' (A plotbunny would be closer to 'Bob/Wendy having grand adventures in space fighting giant robot pirates and helping Emperor von Alphabet reclaim his throne while slowly mending their broken relationship after the events of Episode 43'.) and lack of a general narrative.

The worst thing that can happen with a Premise Bunny is that it turns into a WiP that goes nowhere, because there was never a plot behind it, only a premise.

Premise Bunnies are best fed time and ideas until they magically become proper plotbunnies, though often, unfortunately, many also have to be released back to the wild as well.

I sometimes think premise bunnies breed under my bed, considering how many I seem to have, but those are actually dust bunnies and I should vacuum.
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[personal profile] vampthenewblack 2014-02-12 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Premise bunnies are the bane of my existence. I had one last night, and it's still bugging me, threatening to grow into a plot.

[I've always called these baby bunnies, or depending on size, plot bunny embryos.]
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[personal profile] omens 2014-02-12 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Premise bunnies.. >:(
Edited 2014-02-12 03:02 (UTC)
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[personal profile] alassenya 2014-02-12 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually fairly resistant to premise bunnies - not that I don't get them, but no idea in my head becomes a WIP unless I get a hook scene that I write out, usually followed by a fairly extensive outline and a set of character traits, and often followed by the ending/epilogue.

Ideas that are more vague go into my prompts and outlines folder and mostly don't come out -- there are 34 in there at the moment. Plus there is another folder full of prompts (both my own and other people's).
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[personal profile] carriemac 2014-02-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm drowning in premise bunnies. :(

[personal profile] jack_of_none 2014-02-12 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
I have kind of a section of this in one of my WIPs :V

My outline is kind of like

> Scene
> Scene
> [shenanigans ensue]
> Conclusion

[personal profile] jack_of_none 2014-02-12 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe...part of it is a genre problem, I think. I'm not used to trying to be cute and light-hearted :X
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[personal profile] ldybastet 2014-02-12 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
... I should vacuum more often. Maybe that will get rid of these bastards. ;) (Either way, it would be a great way to procrastinate!!!!!)

I have loads of these. Every time my "characters" (I write JRock RPS) do anything: a photo shoot, release a single, a concert, tweet (and one of them tweets an awful lot!), breathe... up pops a premise bunny. I could play Whack-a-Bunny, and I'd lose so hard! *le sigh*

Best, in my experience, is if you can bounce the premise bunny with someone else, someone who asks the relevant questions like "why do they do that?", "where is it coming from?", "where are they?", "is there someone else there?", "why are *they* there too?", etc etc... like a beta-reader. :) At least that helps me a lot. If the answers are "I don't know", then that particular premise bunny will never become anything, never get a haircut and get a job. That's when I release it back into the wild.

I think even if the answers one comes up with at first are wrong and might change in the course of the plotting, they're still good, because they helped form that premise into something more. "So, they have this adventure. Where? Errr... on a train! They meet this dude... who does evil action x, and then they hijack the ... maybe it's a plane? Oooh, it could be in space! Maybe the evil dude is a robot! That's why they can't defeat him!" It's all good as long as something sets the wheels rolling in your plotpart of the brain. :) But if the bunny just stares back at you when you try to examine it, it's not going to reveal its secrets.

As a side note, I really really REALLY want to be able to hook up to the USB and just download my stories! Because it's the actual writing that trips me. I managed 64 words yesterday before the incredible itching to be somewhere else and do something not-writing hit me. Grrr!
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[personal profile] ldybastet 2014-02-12 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! What you say about overthinking a plot resonates with me! Yes yes! Writing it out seems redundant!

... Now we just need to figure out ow to fix this! LOL
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[personal profile] anassa_anemou 2014-02-12 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Every time my "characters" (I write JRock RPS) do anything: a photo shoot, release a single, a concert, tweet (and one of them tweets an awful lot!), breathe... up pops a premise bunny. I could play Whack-a-Bunny, and I'd lose so hard! *le sigh*

I completly feel you, I'm like that with One Direction and the worst is lately I can't even write anything in that fandom, imagine in my other 300 fandoms.
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[personal profile] ldybastet 2014-02-12 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad I only have this one fandom now! Even though it sometimes overlaps with other Japanese band fandoms. LOL I used to be in a few anime fandoms too, but this band took over all my creativity. :) I can't imagine how you cope with lots of fandoms at the same time!!!
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[personal profile] elizabeth_rice 2014-02-12 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
if you could just hook a USB cable straight into your brain, you'd be all set.
Oh man, I want technology that allows me to download my thoughts like 10 years ago! Where are all the crazy scientists?

Premise Bunnies are best fed time and ideas until they magically become proper plotbunnies, though often, unfortunately, many also have to be released back to the wild as well.
Ahaha, cool analogy. Did not know there was a difference but it totally makes sense.

I sometimes think premise bunnies breed under my bed, considering how many I seem to have, but those are actually dust bunnies and I should vacuum.
LOL
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[personal profile] taichara 2014-02-12 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have turned the spawning and nurturing of premise bunnies into a fine art, if I do say so myself. Plotbunnies can be dire, but these little fraggers are my bread and butter for daily tinkering.

They feed off of turnips, btw ;3
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[personal profile] taichara 2014-02-12 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What? I'm being honest ~!

Besides, that's where things like KoB and MCK came from ~
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[personal profile] taichara 2014-02-12 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Borged turnips, MCK did ~~
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[personal profile] taichara 2014-02-12 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Plantborgs are a time-honoured tradition, yes!
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[personal profile] taichara 2014-02-12 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
There could~ have been some odd tinkering aaaaaaaages back when Rigel and Sadal were setting up shop ;3~ *snrrrrrrrrk*

[personal profile] chordatesrock 2014-02-12 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that was timely. *just received a premise bunny* I wonder whether I should do anything with this shiny, very dark premise.
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[personal profile] geckoholic 2014-02-13 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Perfect term for these stupid little buggers. >:(
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[personal profile] roseargent 2014-02-14 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
I actually don't mind premise bunnies. I've started with much less than even that, in the past, and had good results. Maybe it's because I tend towards shorter fiction (under 5K words usually)?
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[personal profile] crookedspoon 2014-02-14 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Premise bunnies are all I have. How do you take care of them until they grow and level up? It's not as easy as Pokémon.